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In-Depth: The effects of Jonny Craig’s reunion with Dance Gavin Dance.

You all have heard about it by now (Or if you somehow haven’t, here’s your new study guide).  Jonny Craig is back in Dance Gavin Dance, who booted current vocalist Kurt Travis in order to re-incarnate the founding line-up. The move has affected many parties in many ways we’re yet to even think of, so let’s break down everyone this affects.


For Dance Gavin Dance: Lots o’ press. This should easily blow up blogs and forums everywhere with Kurt vs. Jonny debates, and it’s gonna get heated.  The upcoming tour should sell out, the new record will put up gaudy numbers for a post-hardcore outfit.  And the band will break-up after.

Yeah, you heard me.  This isn’t a band reformation; this is a project.  DBM2 will come out, DGD will tour it, and that’ll be that.  When reached via phone, when MEB freelancer Matt Colwell asked him why he returned to DGD, Craig said “I guess I started the band- I wanted to finish it.”  Travis recently told DeadPress! that  ”[the band] were going to break up because they weren’t happy with it, but before they did they were going do a tour with Jonny and just do ‘Downtown Battle Mountain’ songs.”  Obviously that isn’t the agenda anymore, but circumstances seem to point to a finite ending for Dance Gavin Dance once DBM2 is out.

For Emarosa: I know the announcement of the reuniting said that Jonny’s new commitment to DGD would not affect Emarosa. I know that the rumors about the break-up a few weeks back were proven false. I know Emarosa has gained a huge following (they may have played the tiny Ernie Ball Bus stage at Warped, but the crowd stretched all the way to merch tents). But this is Dance Gavin Dance. This is the band that made Jonny famous. He told us “I started it, and I want to finish it.” The line-up that scenesters have long-claimed has unfinished business.
I would be very surprised if Emarosa continues to be a priority for Jonny. Rather than touring their recently released album, Jonny announced he’s rejoining his old buddies. There’s going to be more dollar signs in DGD than Emarosa, so that’s where the label support will lean. I’ll go as far as giving Emarosa less than a year life expectancy. If the DGD tour sells out and the new record lives to the hype, Jonny won’t look back.

For Kurt Travis: It sickened me how Taking Back Sunday fired Matt Fazzi and Matt Rubano for their reunion, and it sickens me that Kurt was dismissed in the same fashion.  Downtown Battle Mountain may be looked at as a classic melodic post-hardcore record, but Happiness reached the highest on Billboard charts and total album sales.

Apparently he holds no ill will towards Jonny, because Travis will be playing guitar and piano on Craig’s upcoming solo tour.  To add to the nonsense, Kurt revealed in the Deadpress interview that he is working with ex-Dance Gavin members Tim Ferrick, Zach Garren and Daniel Snook on a new project.

Your guess is as good as mine on when we’ll see more of Travis. The initial reactions were more “what the fuck” than “fuck yes,” so clearly Kurt has some fans in his corner. Maybe we can get a Kurt-to-Saosin rumor going via Twitter. It seems universal that people want to see Travis resurface sooner rather than later.

For Downtown Battle Mountain: Hearing the old songs with the original line-up will be the big draw of the first tour. As well as Travis sang “Lemon Meringue Tie,” no one does it like Jonny. When Craig did guest appearances on the song at Bamboozle at the Squash The Beef Tour, he easily outsang his replacement on the track. Fans will be psyched for “Times New Roman” to be back in the setlist as well as other tracks like “The Backwards Pumpkin Song.”   Those who have never witnessed the original line-up will surely be amazed to hear Downtown Battle Mountain live.

For self-titled and Happiness: It would be career suicide to not play these songs (though if anyone is stubborn enough to not care, it’s DGD). They can’t just disregard two albums of material. They’ve gained a lot of new fans in the past two Kurtful years from the man’s tracks. Sure, those of us who have known them since day one will still buy the new record and go see them even if they only play DBM, but their two most commercially succesful albums were with Travis. They can’t abandon Deathstar and Happiness, and I’m rather excited to hear Craig sing the songs. Kurt’s performances on “Alex English” and “Me and Zoloft Get Along Just Fine” were exceptional, but there is little that Jonny can’t handle. He’s more than capable of nailing everything released during his sabbatical.

For those who wonder if Craig will pull a Hagar and not sing the other guy’s songs, keep in mind that he filled in with A Skylit Drive for a few weeks before taking the Emarosa gig. He also sang “Casablanca” from Emarosa’s debut EP for nearly his entire first year with the band. Clearly he’s not too prideful to sing someone else’s tunes.  In his recent MEB interview, he showed an interest in “Uneasy Hearts Weight The Most,” a Travis song from self-titled that featured former-Gatsby’s American Dream vocalist Nic Newsham.

For Downtown Battle Mountain 2: This thing better be perfect.  Anything else will be an absolute letdown and a shame.  They fired a beloved vocalist to bring in the big guns, and they have to deliver now.  What’s worse is I feel the hype is far too great.  There’s no way the band can deliver on what fans expect because the memories of the first album are far too great.

Who knows what fans want to hear.  Many will clamor for tracks reminiscent of Downtown Battle Mountain, a record almost 4 years old.  Reverting back to simple melodic post-hardcore is a step backwards for the band, who delved deeper into progressive experimentation with 2009′s Happiness.  However, staying in that experimental route will disappoint those who fled once Jonny was kicked out the first time.  It’s a typical lose-lose.  Unless Dance Gavin Dance can revolutionize a tired genre, keep two very different generations of fans happy and keep from looking like tremendous asses, Downtown Battle Mountain will be a flop.


Author: Jack Appleby View Staff Page for Jack Appleby
That 6’5″ guy you curse about under your breath for standing in front of you at shows. Southern California resident (a fact my fellow MEBers tend to hate me for). Student at Hope International University, where I served two years as Editor-In-Chief of the Hope International Tribune. College basketball player (I’m losing cred by the word). Social networking connoisseur. Musically, I’m all across the board, but tend to hover around ____core and good catchy-rock. Always ready for seven hour Facebook debates on the music industry, your favorite band and anything else.
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  • Good article

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  • Really good read man,

    Its going to be such an interesting year, for everyone involved with this saga. I have to say I’m feeling confident about downtown battle mountain 2. If the boys really do want to finish DGD i think they will all go out with a bang, there’s just a ridiculous amount of creativity in the band. It’s quite sickening really.

    The way i like to see it is when refused knew they were gonna break up, they made “the shape of punk to come” which is just an incredible album. My fingers are crossed that formula works here too.

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  • Im really excited to see what they do with this album, though I hope they don’t break up after this. Where is your source on that info, and it seems like your looking to the worst in jonny craig and dgd and looking for to the best in Kurt. Im confused maybe, I am in the minority, but I truly believe this will be the album of the decade, and jonny will be able to manage both bands as he has been jumping around forever. You give none of them enough credit. But I must give credit where credit is due. You had me glued to the article, it was well written and had great points. Excuse my errors but thank you for the read, and I do wish that you will become excited as the vast majority and my self are for DBM2 and what it means to music. Thanks,

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  • Tom- Excellent points. DGD certainly has their fair share of creative minds; my question is more about whether those minds can meet somewhere and put out a concise, focused record. The qualities people enjoyed about Downtown Battle Mountain are far different than the popular aspects of Happiness. They could go any direction.

    Casey- In Kurt’s interview w/ Deadpress, he said “The band told me that they were going to break up because they weren’t happy with it, but before they did they were going do a tour with Jonny and just do ‘Downtown Battle Mountain’ songs. Things didn’t really happen the way they told me it seems. Oh well.” Combining that with Jonny’s comment of “I started the band – I want to finish it,” I believe that the end is fixed for the band. It’s not soon- there will most likely be a reunion tour, DBM2, then one more tour- I just think after that they’ll call it quits.

    Your point about Jonny being able to handle the commitments is valid as well. The reason for my thinking is that Emarosa has received little to no promotion from Rise and their drummer chose to sit out their recent European tour. I really enjoyed their new record and they had a surprisingly large crowd at Warped this year, but I have a gut feeling their end is near as well.

    Also, I am actually very excited to hear DBM2. Even if it isn’t the masterpiece we all demand, it will be a fascinating listen. And you’ve discovered my distaste for the reunion move. While I have no proof, I have a sneaking suspicion that Will Swan, while a guitar genius, is incredibly hard to work with. Zac Garren was booted by Will, other members have reported “issues” with an unspecified member, and I suspect Kurt was the latest victim. Something just doesn’t smell right about the whole situation.

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  • “I have a sneaking suspicion that Will Swan, while a guitar genius, is incredibly hard to work with. Zac Garren was booted by Will, other members have reported “issues” with an unspecified member, and I suspect Kurt was the latest victim. Something just doesn’t smell right about the whole situation.”

    I agree with you there jack, i have to say when i read the interview with kurt travis, i felt so sorry for him – “I do realise now that me being a part of the band was completely business, and not long lasting friendships.” Ever since reading this i have gained a lot more respect for Kurt, it must be so hard to maintain 100% focus on a band when a little part of you knows you are not considered an equal member.

    Dont get me wrong I am a HUGE DGD fan, but i don’t think that this situation has been handled well at all.

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  • this site is legit thanks for all the info!

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  • So if it happens like you say where will Jonny end up? with DGD .. bc if he stays with Emarosa i can see them getting huge .. BUT! i think this DGD gig will break them apart

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  • stop acting like you know what the fuck is going on you fucking retards! i dont normally post on forums such as this but im so sick of all these false accusations. jonny is back with will and i. where it started about 6 years ago before anyone who is posting on this prob even heard rock music. you guys dont know what the fuck is going on with our band so stop trying to act like you know! obviously things take unexpected turns and its always for the better. (hence why our records sell so much and i have dollar bills you kids put in my pocket,) so why dont you fucking retards get off the computer and do something with your lifes! make the music u wanna hear instead of listening and judging other folks. someone on here show me what you do successfully… please do… you all are dumb fucking kids. i find myself so lame for having to post this but im so sick of shit. come say something to me in person internet hobbits. ill fuck you up. sincerely matthew fucking mingus

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  • to matt: youre next

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  • I think Matt is right. Lets stop all of this stupid speculation and let the music speak for itself. Personally I cant wait for the DBM 2.

    Bands have line-up changes all the time. So whats the big deal. Did you guys actually hear Kurt in Concert he was really terrible. Last time I saw kurt in concert he couldn’t even sing some of the songs. You’ve got to give it up for Will Swan who has the guts to shake things up in the interest of making great music for DGD fans.
    I hole heartedly approve!!!!!

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  • Post hardcore bands and their everchanging singers. Chiodos lost craig owens and now they suck. From First To Last lost Sonny and now they suck. The guy in Funeral for a Friend stopped screaming (you guessed it, in my humble opinion they now suck). ETF lost Ronnie and now they suck (and have sparked one of the largest “who’s better” debates). Everytime there is a change it spurs up a lot of hate between fans of the “old” and “new” bands and hardly a soul likes both. (“WTF man, you like ETF’s new album?!?! FAG!”) Change singer change name. simple. DGD is changing singer, screamer, and guitarist. Why is it still DGD? It’s 2 completely different bands.
    My opinion on DGD is that Kurt does his songs very well, Johnny is great at his. The two are just very different.
    So post hardcore bands: when you change lead singer, change your name. And original ETF reunite.

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