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Jonny Craig’s Great $8000-$12,800 Swindle: The Story

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By Garry Lee. Additional reporting by Jack Appleby and Sebastian Fonseca.

UPDATE #5: Emarosa cancelled their show tonight in Buffalo, NY on February 26th without any statement being released as to why. Here is a poster that is being displayed at the gig confirming this rumour. Fans at the gig have tweeted confirming this (@LostInLuna, @EmilyEatsFace, @holdyourbreath), and while there had been no announcement at the gig detailing why the band are unable to appear tonight, fans from the show believe that the band are no longer playing because “apparently Jonny took off to California”. More on this when it happens.

UPDATE #4: We have an exclusive MindEqualsBlown.net interview with bandmate Jon Mess of Dance Gavin Dance on the Jonny Craig situation. Click here for the interview!

UPDATE #3: Dance Gavin Dance bassist Eric Lodge releases a statement to urge fans to direct their emotions towards Jonny, and not the bands he is a member of:

  • ericjlodge at 5:13 pm: “I’m writing this as a reaction/personal outlet to Jonny’s most recent actions. They strike me as disappointing, but in no way surprising. Selfish individuals often do egomaniacal things. In my opinion, this is consistent with his repertoire. However, in previous instances such selfishness didn’t come at the expense of his faithful fans. I plainly wanted everyone reading this to know that he acted as an individual, and this has nothing to do with any other members of DGD or even Emarosa. Many of you have every right to be angry. I wrote this with no intensions of defending Jonny; instead I would simply like those who are angry to understand the rightful direction of their emotion. As for any advice for Jonny… In the words of Elton John, “the bulldog is barking in the backyard.

UPDATE #2: More of Jonny’s friends have begun weighing in on the situation via Twitter.  Craig Owens and Nick Martin of D.R.U.G.S. and Isles & Glaciers both have tweeted recently.

All three have been contacted for interviews.

UPDATE #1: I have so far received 16 reports from fans scammed by Jonny Craig, putting the total somewhere between a minimum of $8000 and a maximum of $12,800 based on the prices quoted in his tweets. We have been sent a range of pictures of Western Union e-mail confirmations, moneygram transfer receipts, text message conversations about transactions with his confirmed 504 phone number and e-mail exchanges about transactions with his confirmed istillfeelher e-mail address.

ORIGINAL ARTICLE: The internet has come alive with the news that the disgraced Jonny Craig, lead singer of Emarosa and Dance Gavin Dance, has been scamming his own fans out of an alleged (and somewhat confirmed by our own investigating) $8000-$12,800 under the guise of selling black MacBooks on his personal Twitter account. Due to the sheer amount of rumours being spread about the situation, we at Mind Equals Blown decided to do some digging and bring you what we believe to be the real truth on the story. Prepare for what we are calling the Great $8000-$12,800 Swindle.

Jonny has of course denied any allegations that he has done anything wrong and believes that, somewhere over the two months of Twitter messages he sent advertising the black MacBook for sale, his account had been hacked. The story begins slightly before this though, with a person who was scammed before he started to advertise the sale of the MacBook in question. Since she intends to press charges against Jonny, we can only identify her as Stacey.

On September 2nd 2010, Jonny posted on his Twitter account that he was selling an autographed microphone that he had used at a show. As something of a romantic gesture, Stacey made a deal with Jonny to buy it for $300 as an anniversary present for her boyfriend. Jonny agreed on the price but only on the condition that he received the money the next day before noon. Stacey then transferred the money via Western Union, and did not, and has still not received the microphone.

Jonny kept in touch with Stacey and even met her and her boyfriend after a show on October 31st in their hometown with promises that he would pay her back after signing her boyfriend’s magazine. Stacey didn’t hear from Jonny again until January 9th 2011 when she began to fill out court papers to take legal action against him. He told her that he was selling his laptop that he had tweeted about buying on January 6th in order to pay her back. He insisted he wasn’t trying to scam her and that “he was selling everything he owns to pay her back.”

The number that she used to contact Jonny matches up to all of the other personal accounts from the people scammed that we have received, and it matches a tweet made by Jonny himself in 2010 that he posted in an attempt to buy drugs. His addiction to heroin was covered in an e-mail I received from a former fan called Brittany who confirmed that he also uses oxycontin and cocaine, and that he has previously texted her from said phone number asking for the aforementioned drugs whenever he happens to be in town. Brittany had previously met Jonny and said of him that “he really is crazy”, “he has something messed up in his head” and that “he needs help”. The business on Twitter surrounding his alleged 859 number has turned out to be untrue, and the number he used both to score drugs and to contact the buyers of MacBooks has since been disconnected; his close friend Mod Sun confirmed this on Twitter.

Going back to Stacey’s story, Jonny called her on said number around the time of her beginning to file court papers to confirm that he was about to receive a cheque for $5000. Rather conveniently, this is pretty much the same amount of money ($4950) that the Facebook group Jonny Craig Twitter Scam is claiming has been scammed out of his loving, gullible fans.

The story that I have now heard from multiple people is that Jonny would post an ad on his Twitter account claiming to be selling a black MacBook for a figure of around $600800. On agreeing the sum of money with the fan eager to receive a bargain and a rare opportunity to deal with the singer of one of their favourite bands, Jonny would request that the person use a wire transfer (typically Western Union) because he claimed that he had been “fucked” using PayPal in the past, and this way both of them would receive paperwork detailing the transfer.

With Western Union, you need ID to both send and receive money, so the claims from Jonny that someone else was scamming these people through his account rings slightly hollow unless someone else has the ID to collect money sent to Jonathan Monroe Craig in his hometown and state.

So far, of the people we have spoken to directly, the amount accounted for is somewhere in the region of $4000, but of the currently 24 members of that Facebook group and the many people on Twitter who claimed to have been subject to the same scam, we have only received contact from a handful of those people.

Jonny’s close friend Mod Sun has felt that it was necessary to say his thoughts on the matter in a series of tweets regarding his perceived involvement in the controversy. He said:

“Dear friends, so one of my very close friends Jonny Craig has recently made some very bad decisions. His actions are now being directed at me by certain people he hurt/ripped off. I am now forced to address this issue. I truly apologize if you have been taken advantage of by him….it’s very sad. I need you to understand that I have NOTHING to do w/ any of this. I mean absolutely nothing. He had someone pay pal me $ one time for his old laptop he was selling. It was transferred to me & I immediately gave him cash. This was about 35 days ago. Any point after that my account was NOT used. He continued trying to sell a MacBook for a month after that. I truly apologize for his actions because I feel bad for the people who try to support him & get hurt. I’m one of those people as well. I would never treat my friends like that. So, there it is. I have called him & let him know the severity of the situation & am tryin to help yall.”

So it seems that even those who consider Jonny to be a close friend are, at this point, feeling like they have to step up and almost speak for him. And in this case apologize on his behalf in the face of his continued denial that he has done anything wrong. As of right now, not a single person who has transferred money to Jonathan Monroe Craig has received anything in return.

If you have been scammed or have any information related to this story please e-mail garry@mindequalsblown.net and/or jackappleby@mindequalsblown.net.

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116 Comments

  • Garry Lee says: February 21, 2011 at 11:28 PM

    @justsayin There is a private Facebook group called Jonny Craig Twitter Scam that is collating their stories and looking at taking legal action against him. For the group and the details of what to do if you’ve been scammed.

    You have to apply to join the group. It currently has 30 members, so nearly double the number of scams we have reported at present.

    We’re in the process of contacting all of their members.

    http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_165251570190431

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  • just sayin says: February 22, 2011 at 12:25 AM

    @Garry Lee

    Well, a facebook group is lovely and all but all they really need to do is contact the Lexington police and get a report started. The first victim to do so can get the name of the office and/or detective assigned to the case and all the others can follow from there. Not to discount any of the research the various websites have done in the past few days but no legal consequences will occur until law enforcement is involved. If that is what the FB page is directing them to do then color me redundant. cheers.

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  • jessica says: February 22, 2011 at 3:52 AM

    @Randy (#26)

    There are white MacBooks, but only silver MacBook PROs.

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  • Dylan Powell says: February 22, 2011 at 11:07 AM

    The Craig Owens comment made me lol.

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  • Bass says: February 22, 2011 at 11:18 AM

    There are white macbook pros. The first macbook pros made were white then they decided to make them aluminum, observe:

    http://www.apple.com/macbook/specs.html
    http://www.quecomputers.com/images/white_macbook.jpg
    http://gigaom.com/apple/updated-white-macbook-vs-entry-unibody-macbook/

    No, it’s not a macbook, it’s a white macbook pro.

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  • Rizzy Tyson says: February 22, 2011 at 1:51 PM

    Jonny Craig concerts are gonna be like the middle east now.

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  • rawndarawg says: February 22, 2011 at 3:16 PM

    Please boo him off stage at his next show and youtube it. Thanks.

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  • […] Mind Equals Blown(MEB) has estimated that Jonny has raked in an estimated $8-12,000, around £4,957 – £7,436, […]

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  • Nicole says: February 22, 2011 at 5:48 PM

    you guys need to relax. youre idiots for trusting him and yeah he did a very scumbaggy thing but no need to boo him off stage, he still makes AMAZING music…

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  • Shitscrazy says: February 22, 2011 at 5:52 PM

    Damn! This is crazy. He had mad respect from alot of fans and just shit on all of them like that. Thats messed up. I knew the guy was fucked up. I hungout with him when him and mod sun came to indiana and he was trying to get bud and shit all night and was clearly already on some other shit.

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  • Josh says: February 22, 2011 at 6:10 PM

    @50 (Nicole),

    It doesn’t matter how amazing his music is. This guy is lower than dirt in my book, and if any band decides to associate with him after all this, I will discontinue to listen to their music.

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  • virginia says: February 22, 2011 at 10:23 PM

    very typical behavior for a pathological liar or a drug dealer.

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  • Aaron says: February 23, 2011 at 12:10 AM

    I really don’t understand what people even see in this guy! Asside from being the biggest tyrant in the world, his music is lazy, usually just him rambling all over the same 5 pretty notes with some very mediocre smokey riffs…

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  • Aaron says: February 23, 2011 at 12:12 AM

    I really don’t understand what people even see in this guy! Asside from being the biggest tyrant in the world, his music is lazy, usually just him rambling all over the same 5 pretty notes with some very mediocre smokey riffs…

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  • Taylor says: February 23, 2011 at 12:37 AM

    Jonny is BEAST!!!! I could make up shit and give a bunch of “facts” and make people believe it! he’s obviously got some problems but the dude isnt an idiot…to use your own phone number???? When the smoke clears, Jonny is gonna be laughing at all the douche bag fans who have so quickly turned against him!

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  • Josh says: February 23, 2011 at 12:47 AM

    @Taylor

    There’s just some things you just can’t fake.

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  • Taylor says: February 23, 2011 at 10:57 AM

    Im not even saying theres no truth to this….it mighta happened once even if not on purpose. But when a star is accused once everybody is suddenly a victim! Just look at big ben…once you get that image…who’s an easier target???

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  • Cody says: February 23, 2011 at 12:39 PM

    @Taylor
    Idiot. How about you send him a few hundred bucks for a laptop then?

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  • 607mikey says: February 23, 2011 at 2:36 PM

    @Tyler

    Your probably right dude..some people are probably saying they got ripped off just to be funny. But ask yourself this….why would I waste my own personal time to type out that jonny Craig ripped me off for a $15 ghost runner on third cd? Jonny Craig used to be the shit in my eyes.. now I want to stomp him out. Dude thinks hes a thug..

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  • DGDfan1 says: February 23, 2011 at 4:43 PM

    wow thats fucked up for real… now ppl dont have respect for my fav band (dance gavin dance) and their losing money cause of wat he did.. fuck him.. and plus i would feel like shit if a dick like craig owens (who is a good singer and i love D.R.U.G.S but still is a dcik) called me out… wow

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  • Justin B says: February 23, 2011 at 5:21 PM

    Anyone else remember him asking for money a couple months earlier than this for an engagement ring for his fiance? Probably doesn’t even exist

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  • Jay says: February 24, 2011 at 12:14 PM

    Im going to put my personal input on a couple of things. Im not backing up jonny but everyone knows that when someone is in the spotlight life bcomes more difficult than easy. So lets say he sold a laptop to someone and things got fucked up somehow. Well the public and the media (idiots like whoever wrote this article), blow shit way out of proportion and start digging into other peoples personal life. What if I were to start pulling up every little thing any of you little shits did through out your life. Id put my life on it that 99% of you have some dirt that nobody knows about. Dirt that would make people look at you and go “wow, what an ass hole” and some of those people would probably claim ” oh yea he did the same shit to me”, when in fact you dont even know those people. People in this world now days are sooo worried about what everyone else does if we would just focus on our own lives and trying to become better people and help other in need out, the world would be a much better place. Honestly Jonnys not worried about this situation and has it under control, basically hes no sweatin it, its the price you pay when you have a gift. Take Ben Rothlesberger ,or anyone, once he did something that one person thought was wrong everyone said oh ya ben raped me! My point is mind your own fucking business. It funny how he was trying to sell ONE macbook and now all these people are trying to say he ripped them off. You have proof of ONE receipt, which he is in fact trying to fix at this moment… You guys r the fucking scam artists. ITs a really good but over used scam to say someone “famous” scammed you, that way you can get “reembursed” for money you never sent out. Hop on someone elses dick.

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  • Josh says: February 24, 2011 at 12:31 PM

    @Jay

    They only posted ONE picture of ONE receipt. They have so many more. Get off the ignorance train and face reality. Jonny fucked up BIG time this time around.

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  • Philip says: February 24, 2011 at 1:00 PM

    If you read through Craig’s older tweets:
    He tweeted that his girl was in an accident and he needed Vicodin.
    He tweeted that his tooth was aching
    He posted everyday on tour “WHOS GOT CONNECTS”?

    On top of it, when he was selling his microphone, he kept saying “SOLD!” then he would say, oh they backed out, its for SALE again.

    Jonny Craig is fucking smart for being able to cheat off his dumbass fans.

    He was begging fans to throw in money for a ring for his girl.

    Shes the conspirator. He gives all his money to her. So go to facebook. Find that cunt, and slander her in messages.

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  • Jay says: February 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM

    Oh how convenient Josh!!! They only posted one, if your going to write such a deatiled article and you know so many facts and are trying to make sure everyone gets what they deserve, then show the other receipts. And to Phillip, guys do fucked up things for the girl they love. They will get in your head and make you do anything. I know for a fact alllllll of his money goes to this whore which is why he cant pay rent. You all above are fucking dumb for sending money somewhere without getting the facts. If one person didnt get the laptop what makes you think you will. You all are either really fucking nieve and retarted or your just scam artists yourself trying to get money paid back that you never paid. Jump on the bandwagon. Oh btw I just went and tried to buy a macbook from jonny and didnt receive yet, cant believe i payed 20 grand for a laptop ill nvr see!! Man i wish i wouldnt have done that, now im going to go to every magazine and tell them he stole 20 grand from me and report him to the police.Thats what he gets for not signing my cd and not touching my hand at the concert, that asshole. Ya thats what he gets for fucking my gf in the bathroom of that venue. Maybe someone will pay me back…..sounds like a pretty convenient way to receive free money. PROVE THIS SHIT BITCH, and until you do go suck someone elses dick!!!

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  • Devon says: February 24, 2011 at 6:13 PM

    @Jay, everyone I talked to that got scammed has a receipt. I have mine. Just because they only post one picture doesnt mean that theres only one person that it happened to. That’s like saying that if the news only interviewed one Katrina victim then that means that nobody else was affected.

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  • Garry Lee says: February 24, 2011 at 6:51 PM

    @Jay We are going to print more photographic evidence, but we need to wait until it has been looked over by a lawyer to make sure we don’t jeopardise any of the court cases/police investigation, and at the time, we had not officially cleared the rest of the photos with the people affected.

    Essentially, we’re trying to do things correctly. Sit tight though, it shouldn’t take much longer.

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  • Josh says: February 24, 2011 at 7:36 PM

    @Gary

    Thanks again for such a well written article! Very informative, and hopefully we see this scum get some jail time.

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  • Florida says: March 1, 2011 at 5:56 PM

    @Josh
    How ’bout rehab instead of jailtime? If he obviously has a problem, why put him in a cell when it’s actually possible to try and help him get better?
    Odds are, if he did have a drug addiction, and the scamming did occur, then it was done to afford said drugs. Why have another statistic filling a jail cell when there are systems and facilities in place to help them get past addictions? Meh, just my two cents.

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  • alondra says: March 2, 2011 at 5:07 PM

    Okay, He’s in rehab and everyone is getting payed back.

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  • Johnathan Smith says: March 2, 2011 at 11:19 PM

    If you can defend him in this,your an idiot.
    You deserve his dick duck taped in your mouth for the rest of your boring life.
    Johnny Craig you are a good singer,but that doesn’t make you a soulful person
    just a confused,scared little boy trying to ignore the truth with your lies and drugs.
    Drugs are for good times,not for people who are pathetic.
    To manipulate that many fans is to be just to be as empty as the words
    you sing to them. He is so empty he can only inspire
    himself with pain. Poor little baby Johnny.

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  • derp says: March 3, 2011 at 1:13 AM

    I really love DGD and Emarosa, but I can easily say that this is ridiculous and upsetting. I will still buy DTBM2 and will probably have consistent listens. I just wish the best for Jonny. Hopefully he gets help somehow even though I know that won’t happen. In the words of Emarosa, “Let hate save you when nothing else will. And I know it won’t save you.” or something like that. lolololol

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  • Johnathan Smith says: March 4, 2011 at 6:01 AM

    I actually want to apologize for majority of what I said,I have a conscience.
    I understand Johnny is going through things and this situation is more sad than anything.
    I hope he sees into his actions and understands the source to find healing including acceptance
    to whatever it is that takes him to such degrees of pain.
    I would of been less angry at the time I read all of this
    if it wasn’t his fans he manipulated,just for the fact I could of understood him a little.
    Not likely we will ever meet again Johnny or you would even remember me,
    but I wish you good luck in your future dealing with karma and not to mention
    whatever action the system takes upon you.
    And to his fans,that could of been you waiting for your money to be returned,
    dealing with all the stress of losing money,
    and knowing that someone who can make you feel
    in a magical way such as lyrical work would under mind you
    and take advantage of your admiration.

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  • Johnathan Smith says: March 4, 2011 at 6:07 AM

    @ jay
    your a complete idiot
    and you are backing up Johnny like you deny
    looks like his dick is all in your mouth

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  • DestineeAllison says: March 5, 2011 at 5:39 PM

    Who gives a fuck. Music is music. Whatever he does aside from singing, doesn’t affect the music he creates, along with his band-mates. If you don’t want to listen to his music, DON’T. Don’t make a huge deal over something, only slightly controversial. People do more fucked up things everyday. Did he kill anyone? Nope? Cool, then he can’t be that bad.

    Besides, You have to be stupid to buy something off of twitter, from someone, that just about everyone knows does drugs.(x

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  • SR says: March 6, 2011 at 4:20 AM

    The things people do when they are drug dependent. It never ceases to amaze me. For Jonny’s sake, I hope he get’s cleaned up. Whether I remain a fan or not has yet to be seen. If he can get his act together and make amends to all these poor people he screwed over then I’m willing to give him another chance. But he’s got some serious making up to do. What a damn fool.

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  • Holly says: March 8, 2011 at 5:16 PM

    DestineeAllison – Could’nt have put it better myself!
    If he was’nt famous no one would give a shit, just coz he’s behaving like a dick does’nt make his music any less good and no one is gonna stop appreciating his music just coz he’s made some errors in judgement… look at all the other famous people who have committed crimes and yet it’s not stopped them from making any money! If Emarosa and Dance Gavin Dance have any sense, they won’t let it bother them either.

    As for the people moaning about being scammed from buying something off Twitter, you have no one to blame but yourself, use ebay like a normal person or better yet, go to a store.

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  • […] going into rehab. This is the first time Craig has accepted responsibility for the macbook scam we reported on weeks ago. The statement has been made through Dance Gavin Dance’s […]

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  • becca says: March 9, 2011 at 11:33 PM

    Holly and DestineeAllison-

    Your statements are really ignorant.
    Jonny craig failed his fans friends and family. Just because not everyone was personally victimized doesn’t mean they don’t have a right to be upset or mad at his actions. He’s a big boy he can make decisions himself. He chose drugs and screwing ppl over. The fact that you said just because he didn’t kill someones doesn’t make him a bad person is completly bogus. A wrong is a wrong. That’s like saying a guy only beat the shit out of his gf but its not so bad cause she’s not dead. Your right his music doesn’t become anyless good. But the words that inspired so many are now questionable because of his actions. its not because he’s famous that this is such a notible event..everyday ppl are the new for there actions like this. Butthis is on such a large scale…for every fan that bought his music payed for tickets for his shows that he could barely perform at cause he was drugged out the merch and the countless ppl that got scammed by him because the money he profited and stole went to his drug addiction. So every fan has right to voice there anger and they don’t need to be told to shut up and don’t listen to his music then. There are still othere members of dgd and emarosa that need support. And its no ones fault for getting scammed by someone they looked up to. There not the idiots for not using ebay..jonny is the idiot for victimizing ppl that thought they could trust him. He’s wrong and needs help.

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  • becca says: March 9, 2011 at 11:42 PM

    And another thing…. just my own personal opnion. I don’t think jonnys apology was sincere.
    I don’t believe that he’s sorry for his actions…I think he’s sorry for himself that he got caught.
    People like that don’t change over night. He has a lot of work to do to fix himself.

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  • Luke says: March 10, 2011 at 8:50 PM

    Honestly don’t care if idiots get scammed by him, he’s the greatest singer ever in my book. He could be doing drugs, killing people and kicking puppies, i’d still love him. Although I am not dumb enough to buy a laptop from him..

    You gotta realize that he doesn’t talk to fans like Justin Bieber or the Jonas Brothers, he pop’s pills before his concerts and other drugs afterwards. This isn’t some huge deal.

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  • Ben says: March 11, 2011 at 4:04 AM

    @Luke

    No one cares about the drug use, its the fact that he directly scammed a ton of people to get money. It doesn’t matter what the money was for, the problem was that he scammed fans.

    He is a fantastic singer, but a living piece of shit.

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